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Gennady Korban: Lazarenko thought that it betrayed Axelrod

Only dreamed Axelrod — so I ended up conflicts … I get much more difficult, I move around in armored cars and am not in a public place. And Gena strongly refused protection. In this regard, we have repeatedly had a conversation with him. — And you are not inconvenienced by such a lifestyle? — It is very hard — look at the world through the glass of an armored car.

chapter of “Slavutych-Registrar” Gennady Korban referred to as “raider number one in Ukraine.” He himself describes as a “Conflict”. But the difference in terms has almost no value. Corban is known as the author of the most daring, dirty and simultaneously virtuosic raids in Ukraine over the past 10 years. In particular, he led the conflicts around the “Southern Mining”, “Dniprooblenergo”, Nikopol Ferroalloy Plant.

Especially a lot of companies he took for the owner of “Private” Igor Kolomoisky. It is said that later Korban demanded too much, and Kolomoisky refused his services.

But now the famous “Conflict” wants to engage with the same business. By this he pushed the financial crisis and the change of power in Ukraine. But there is another factor. Recently the center of Dnipropetrovsk killed his best friend, Gennady Axelrod . This is the second one businessman, who was killed. The first was Vyacheslav Braginsky, in which an attempt was made in 2009.

appears that Corban himself and his entourage are still in shock. They all say that it would be understandable if the next attack made on himself “Conflict”. But the most absurd in this attempt that killed his partner, who, in the words of the Korban was the only builder, and tried to not get involved in dirty business. In contrast to the same Bragin, who had also been actively involved in corporate conflicts.

businessman knows who ordered the murder — he points to the former prime minister of Ukraine Pavel Lazarenko, who was himself once Korban deprived a large number of businesses. Interestingly, he does not name the name directly, but said the former owner of the Ukraine, “the man”. What is it — the legal tricks (not to divulge the secret of the investigation) or no respect — it is not clear.

now Corban seeking artist murder, and otherwise taking care of the family of the deceased Axelrod. In particular, the day of our meeting, he provided legal assistance to the wife of ex-partner, to which the police came to search. Businessman promises that will complete several projects that have started to his friend.

“Customer of the offense is in the U.S.”

— As a consequence of moving to investigate the murder of Gennady Axelrod?

— As always, it is on false paths. In police work drinkers and non-professionals. Instead of having to deal with these versions, they work out stupid, unnecessary event, seize any documents on the property.

For example, on the second day after the tragedy, they held four o’clock his wife and daughter during the interrogation. Tell me, is this normal? It’s just a blatant lack of professionalism — the psychological, human.

— Maybe it’s deliberate actions?

— No, not consciously. They have two years can not hear what we have told them. After the first attack happened September 17, 2010, when we were with him (Axelrod — “EP”) together.

From what I sounded and asked them to do is not done nothing. They were engaged in garbage. Practiced domestic version, the version associated with the internal relations. They did not want to work with victims.

— I read that at the time of attack were in the car Axelrod’s wife and daughter.

— As far as I know, it’s not.

— In your opinion, what are the true direction, which would have to go a consequence?

— I do not want to sound names, but I know that the customer is the crime in the U.S., and is in jail. Singers, of course, I know I can not. But I hope that know their names.

— You do not name names, after losing a similar suit ( wrote that won the case against Lazarenko media, which issued a statement Korban that this is the ex-prime minister ordered the assassination attempt on him < / em> )?

— I’m not lost. I won all the lawsuits in him of whom you speak, along with newspapers. Lost to the man. If you need a solution courts, we’ll give you a copy.

— Why you did not want to sound his name? It is on the lips, and this is one of the most common version.

— Unfortunately, the investigation is not considered as one of the versions. While not considering. I do not want to sound, because I do not want to.

— is so resonant murder (Axelrod — EP), and even in a crowded place, and with control in mind — this is a signal?

— The execution of this murder many poorly understood. Cold-blooded bastard who shot and at the same time, absolutely poor quality weapons. There are inconsistencies, they obviously planned this crime, but there is a feeling that it has been allocated a minimum budget. Or someone managed to squander the money was “allocated” to the previous burst, and now just “finished the”. We are conducting their own investigation.

— but it is a signal to some people, in particular, to you?

— Yes.

— Or is it solely concerned?

— No. In fact, I just have to get much harder as I move around in armored cars and am not in a public place. Since 2006 I have increased security measures, and I was hard to get.

But Gene did not think that he is involved in a war or some kind of order, therefore, strongly refused protection. In this regard, we have repeatedly had a conversation with him.

— And you are not inconvenienced by such a life?

— This is a very hard life. It is very hard — look at the world from behind the glass armored car.

— When the point of no return came when you could not live otherwise?

— In 2006, after the first attack. After that, I completely changed his life.

“Gene was a man of conflict-free”

— once you change your direction in life after what happened with Axelrod?

— Change the direction of … you can only change is now a place of residence.

— you’re not going to leave the country?

— Maybe I’ll go. I do not know.

— you will release the first works?

— Yes.

— You used to be able to just walk the streets without protection?

— Once upon a time I can. When finished with the enemy …

— Classic Seekers — Switzerland, Austria, Israel. They are safer, or your kind of man is no longer possible to hide?

— I think it is safer. They operate on a different principle of law enforcement, and perhaps even a different plan their activity criminal elements. There are cameras, there are places where hard to hide. There is a clear and coordinated work of law enforcement agencies, as well as civil liability of those who live there.

So I think that in these countries more difficult to fulfill the order. Although anything can happen, but it’s harder, more expensive.

— in your address received calls and threats?

— No, it has been reported. I know my enemies in the face.

— you started on the pressure from the prosecutor’s office, the Security Service, the police?

— I do not understand what it means to “pressure”. I know that lately I’ve been, Gennady and Boris Filatov and our employees have been defendants in a certain OSA called “Agate,” which was engaged in OCD. We officially wrote to the Ministry and Prosecutor’s Office that we see behind us is shadowed. They wrote that UBOP directs requests to various agencies of our names, the names of our relatives — children, fathers, wives. But they gave us an unsubscribe.

For example, some materials that went to the prosecutor’s office in December 2011 by groups in the Dnepropetrovsk region. The first written — Gennady Korban. “Rozroblyaє scheme zahoplennya pіdpriєmstv, Got stіykі zv’yazki s members fіnansovo promilovih-group (well, it’s true, do not deny), scho dіyut on teritorії Dnіpropetrovskoї oblastі i Ukrainy in tsіlomu, pіdtrimuє koruptsіynі zv’yazki in organs that Vladi pravoohoronnih, kontrolyuyuchih that vessels of, stvoryuє dіyalnіst іnozemnih kompanіy offshore, away in the yakі prichetnі to privlasnennya aktivіv zahoplenih pіdpriєmstv. ”

And then — Axelrod. It’s just a mockery. The man who all his life engaged in real estate has never been involved in any wars, always criticized me for it. “Axelrod Gennadіy Illіch … stvoryuє organіzovuє is the number of robot SPD conducting yakі zabezpechuyut nalezhne fіnansovo-buhgalterskoї dokumentatsії on pіdpriєmstvah, yakі zaluchenі to reyderskih schemes.” Well, in the accounts he had understood nothing.

“The fact chislі quiet, far away in the scho vikoristovuyutsya yak fіktivnі pіdpriєmstva s metoyu vivedennya aktivіv zahoplenih pіdpriєmstv on pіdkontrolnі yomu that Korban GO.” Written “spіvorganіzator, active participant should be.” It is concluded that they are simply because I am with breakfast, lunch and dinner.

Boris Filatov, a well-known journalist in the city, these idiots attributed to “influence public opinion in the interest of regional organized crime groups.” And made him the owner of the two channels, one of which belongs to the structures of “Private”, and the second — the structures, “SCM”.

Say it is OCD? This is the police? They are professionals?

— It may be that the killing of Axelrod’s for you “hang”?

— Let him hang.

Just wonder how the presence of an operational-search business, where we are and the persons involved are the police under the hood, there is. Maybe it’s the police and she did? Or merged information?

— Murder by Vyacheslav Bragin figured the information that he played a former police officer.

— Unfortunately, it turned out to be misinformation. Artists have found. They are just a finger on the finger does not hit any of the case, nor to attempt to “pepperoni”. Doing stupid things, and do so far.

— Other versions may be? For example, Axelrod had large debts to Leonid Yurushev.

— He had no debts to Yurushev! First, the bank “Forum” — not Yurushev. This is a very important point, because they grabbed for this version, made it almost basic. This is nonsense.

Gennady did have debt to the bank “Forum”. But that was after the bank sold Yurushev “Commerzbank”.

Gennady I do have a judgment on which the bank wanted to charge him personally with 3 million 300 thousand dollars of personal debt. This is the only debt that was listed for him. But it is impossible to recover this debt, because genes did not have the property, or formally he was not there. I personally engaged in his debt, and I know it thoroughly.

Bank “Forum” is simply pleaded in public. A feeling that we needed it more than them. That is, they do not engage in order to actually recover the debt. They are, in my opinion, anyway. There’s shareholder — the “Commerzbank”. When there is no owner, management does not want to return the debt, the soul of this place, he will not. Therefore, the version with the bank “Forum” — false.

Also gone are the version that is some crime bosses, who are here in the city — NARIC not NARIC, someone else. This is also a false version. Because all the crime bosses in this city long ago turned into a housing managers. They did that bullies can be frightening.

I do not go, do not give evidence. But it is not criminal authorities and the bank “Forum”.

— And all the other options that could be?

— Gene in general was a man without conflict. He was committed to building real estate, shopping centers. He loved life, socialized with people, joking.

He was a talented conceptology. He built the “Menorah” in Dnepropetrovsk. It is the largest Jewish center. It’s his concept, his idea and its embodiment.

He worked exclusively peaceful, creative business. The only thing he has always dreamed of — that I have finished their conflicts. And trying to help me finish these conflicts. That’s it.

— Of those who came to the cemetery to hold Axelrod, one can draw any conclusions?

— No, this one does not make conclusions. Someone could, some could not, someone has been abroad. One can only conclude that Kulichenko — full r … but. Here it can be done. He was in town knew and did not come to lay flowers. …

(Pokazuє starі photo — “EP”) This looked something like those places that has built up Gene. It is the center of the city. Kulichenko this does not put his hands. These were the markets — dirty, smelly. Now here the area is lined with lanterns, with benches, is a shopping center, on the other. Type of Europe.

— Then why did Axelrod? This is a message to you?

— No, this is not the message. Just in conflict with this man, he at one time also took part. And I think that this man was very offended at him.

Most widely known structures Axelrod -

Most widely known structures Axelrod –

“It has not all taken away, that’s for sure”

— I found the material on the Donets Natalie Fosdick, who once worked for Lazarenko. It was a phrase that she asked for your services.

Pavel Lazarenko - on the right

Pavel Lazarenko – on the right

— It is not something that appealed to the services. In 2005-2006, her ex-partner Pavel Lazarenko started to take what he believed belonged to him. And she asked me for help, in Genoa. We helped her to finish this conflict. She was pleased.

— Among the residents of Dnipropetrovsk prevalent view is that when Lazarenko “closed” in the United States, there remained a lot of his business. When the business was abandoned, there are many people who want to stretch it. And these people are very against it, if you want to go back Lazarenko.

— This is a very philistine, it sounds trivial. He really left a lot of property — in Dnipropetrovsk, Dnipropetrovsk oblast, Kiev and probably in other regions.

On it there is still a huge number of working people. This I have repeatedly said the law enforcement agencies, but they did not react. That is, it is quite a structured business.

Indeed, it so happened that we went with him into the conflict, including on the property which he had once with their capabilities, we will say so, has acquired.

This is not no man’s property. It works fairly large group of his supporters. Some of them are now relocated to Kiev. There is still a lot of its “Community”, which they re-registered in Kiev. At the moment it has limited funds, and obviously loses any capacity.

Here he lived a brother — Ivan Lazarenko, who is engaged in agriculture. He was until recently the deputy in the Dnipropetrovsk regional council. Paradox. He is a son who is engaged in the business. Mother-in-law — a very active participant in the business.

— Managers of a lot, or directs one person — a son, brother, mother-in-law?

— They have different directions. Brother — a complete idiot, round, square, even. He is so stupid that even the Pasha, he was never trusted to conduct any negotiations. It does not breed two words. This is the “farm.” So brother, mostly engaged in agriculture around some objects.

His son, too, does not possess any special abilities, and also engaged in small business.

The main violin played by his mother-in-law now, some Tsikova Tamara. This is a new mother-in-law. He married another woman in his former secretary Oksana Tsikovoy.

Naturally, there is a conflict, even inside. He has not seen, not heard. But, of course, the family Tsikovoy trying to find for themselves all the residues that it is there. And somehow push the old family.

— What do you think he ever come back Lazarenko to Ukraine?

— No, he never returned to Ukraine. I’m sure. Because the prosecutor’s office there are 16 criminal cases, two of which — it is murder. This murder and the murder of Shcherban Getman.

— Do you think it is provable things?

— It is very difficult to prove it. But we have some correspondence in which he instructs his staff to travel to visit prisons and people who are sentenced for life for the murders. He sends his greetings, money, food. He gives directions — to give them-so. He then wrote reports: a ticket to Lugansk colony has spent so much on the bed spent this much. Question — why?

I have friends who are serving a life sentence in prison, I have nothing to send to anyone. Why does he do it? So, he knows why he does it. It is possible that those who serve for life, never with him were not the case. A chain of people who have had dealings with him, interrupted. And to prove the killings would be extremely difficult.

Therefore, he will never return to Ukraine. Never. Moreover, he settled there, living there was his wife. He had three children there. Why three? First, children in the U.S. territory under the law automatically granted citizenship. Accordingly, it has the right to family reunification. This is an important legal factor. In addition, there is some kind of amendment or a rule that if you have three children, it is a reasonable basis to stay in America.

He never became an American citizen, it is a fact. Convicted in the United States on such articles of non-citizen will never get there citizenship. But to live with the family he’s able to. Either there or in Canada.

— And use the proceeds from this he can? Or revenues, which are somewhere. I do not believe that it all away.

— I do not believe it. It has not all taken away, that’s for sure. Because the revenue it gets here, he’s not in America to declare. It is known for certain. That is, property which exists here, drawn up by shell companies. This junk company that did not show the property and income, wherever they are registered.

To hide this, he created a number of non-resident companies, which are simply the owners. Revenue receives all of its local gang that somehow redistributes these revenues. Some part, obviously, is the family in America, some part is spent on the existence and maintenance of this community.

— What if his motive? If the bulk of the money he had and did not see it. There should be a compelling motive for murder.

— He has a motive. Because Gene was trying to him to conduct peace talks on the conflict, which we had with him. He successfully led the negotiations. And we actually stopped for a moment the conflict. But then the conflict began anew.

The motive … I’m with Gena spend the maximum amount of time each day. And it was obvious. We lunched together, dined together, dined together, we will call up to 20 times a day. And even if someone is watching, say, for me, he saw that this person is close enough.

A motive — that’s what he thought and believed that Axelrod is one of the parties to the conflict. He was dissatisfied with the settlement agreement, which we had. He — is someone who sits in the USA. He believed that Axelrod is it so “spread.”

Corban and Axelrod, along with Luciano Benetton. Photos from the office Korban

Corban and Axelrod, along with Luciano Benetton. Photos from the office Korban

“I am confident that Tymoshenko to this has no relation”

— Are you familiar with the criminal authority “Sailor”, through which Tymoshenko and Lazarenko allegedly ordered the murder of Shcherban?

— No, I do not know and never knew. This man was in a different generation.

— you know something about this person?

— No, nothing.

— What do you think of the very version of the Prosecutor General of the murder of Shcherban?

— I think this is a very real version. The fact that it did Lazarenko, I doubt not there. But I would very much doubt that Tymoshenko has to do with it.

Another thing that Pasha had the right manner to dispose of money controlled by businessmen. He could calm her or Dityatkovsky say, “Here’s details of placing so much money.” But for what, and who …

At that time it was very easy. It is now, if you want someone to send money, the banks require documents that verify the legality of the company and the transaction. In the 1990s, the West has not been all of these terrorist issues, and could transfer money to someone you like, what you want and without documents. Baltic banks have always been particularly loyal to clients, they did not ask questions. So, I suppose, that Pasha could give details and say: “Make the payment there so much money.” I am sure that Tymoshenko to this is irrelevant. But that’s my opinion. There is a corollary. There are some faktazh them — let them do.

— In 2009 the U.S. Court of Lazarenko, you sent a statement telling where you talked to Lazarenko, when he was under house arrest and had no right to communicate.

— It’s true. This is precisely the time when I fought with him, Gennady so-called peace talks. We talked through what is coming or his brother, who is idiot, or some lawyers. They recruited him from a mobile, it is they call back, and they gave me the phone. I kept saying it to investigators. But I have a feeling that they hear the other place.

— As the United States reacted to it?

— We have submitted all applications for prosecutors and the courts. But the court was already at the sentencing stage, which does not take testimony. They have attached them to the materials, but not considered on its merits.

— How Jewish community reacted to the murder of Axelrod?

— How can it respond? Well, indignantly.

— I understand this is a very strong and influential group.

— The Group?

Another building Axelrod. Hotel

Another building Axelrod. Hotel

— Whether or not the unity of the Jewish community?

— The Jewish community — a community. This is a religious, social organization, we can not call it a group. They assembled business leaders. In recent years they have greatly impoverished. This is not a group that has some practical features. It is a place where people come to devote time to rub the different religions and Mays: who said what, who is who won, who did not give anyone.

— What conclusions have you drawn from previous attempts: on you, Bragin?

— The same as now. Bragin is actively involved in the conflict with Lazarenko, in contrast to the genes. He took an active part in terms of redistribution of property, but also refused to protect yourself in every way. All that I have outlined the investigative authorities, and repeatedly, and gave names, and gave who should look for and how to look for, and what factors indirectly confirm my version. But nobody did anything.

— Maybe they’re afraid of something?

— Yes, what they fear? Just the police have, unfortunately — the most inefficient, most corrupt and most unprofessional punitive agency.

— And you can bring it under the jurisdiction of the Security Service?

— It’s hard. In the SSU, I believe, are working more or less decent people — not selling, do not completely unscrupulous, not drunkard. There are officers, they have slightly different bearing and a different attitude to things. But the criminal things do not fall under their jurisdiction. To bring under their jurisdiction, there must be some special instructions prosecutors, they are redirected to a result under the control of the SBU.

SBU able to disclose such things, I think. But for this they must have the procedural ability.

— Have you tried to create such an opportunity?

— Yes, we tried. If you remember, the first attack on me in 2006 it opened the SBU. He was here the head of the SBU Karpenko. He reacted very sensitively to the situation, and how the investigation took for themselves. It is a crime of the SBU opened up to almost Politkovskaya. have already passed on the Russian security services, all data on the Chechen, who is in Moscow, and already charged for the murder of Politkovskaya.

— He shot?

— Do not shoot, and organized a company to order, the dispatcher.

— In 2010, bombed in the “Pepperoni,” You wanted to kill or scare?

— No, I would like to kill. The charge was enough to just blast the rebound went by, and I just hurt. If I had sat three meters closer, we would not talk to you.

— The charge was not directly under you?

— No. I was thrown to the side.

— You no longer at the restaurant do not go?

— No, I do not go.

— Please rate quote: “Korban tried unsuccessfully to persuade him to finance the campaign of Ivan Kulichenko, the team is hard form of Donetsk.” In particular, it is mentioned in this connection, a respected gentleman from Donetsk, known as “cut”.

The mayor of Dnipropetrovsk - Ivan Kulichenko

The mayor of Dnipropetrovsk – Ivan Kulichenko

— The first time I heard about this “authority”. Secondly, I want to say that Corban has never taken, do not accept and does not intend to participate in the political life of the country, city, village, or whatever.

Moreover, Kulichenko — it’s just worthless. It’s just scum and worthless. Gene in 10 years this man has done in just a valuable work. And this jerk did not even come to lay flowers, when they said goodbye. This is my human attitude, not political. I do not know what he is the team — “Donetsk” or “Donetsk”. I do not care.

— you announced one million reward for information about the killer. Why, if you know the customer?

— I know the customer, and want to take artist. Because the singer give me a procedural opportunity to come to the customer. And the money we pay for the performer. We’ll pay more if necessary.

— How can you guarantee the security of the person who contact you with information? You probably listen to all sides.

— We can guarantee the security, trust me. If the information is accurate and will help you find the perpetrators, believe me — we find all possible ways, legal and illegal, to protect such rights. But, unfortunately, mostly addressed some lunatics, idiots, just sick people, schizophrenics. We can show you letters that they write. Do not talk about.

— Boris Filatov, Miron Sosnovsky threatened?

— No one threatens no one. Sosnowski did not have and did not have to do with us. On the contrary, is now being investigated by the case against the fact that he shot at the helicopter, which was Filatov. But it was just a drunken outburst, for which I am sure he will be punished according to law. They live in adjacent areas, and Sosnowski started drunkenly shoot, hunt for the helicopter. What an idiot, plain bytovuha.

The second part of the interview can be read here

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